the country is suffering from what i call structural insecurity. so when it comes to the political orientation of neighboring countries [ inaudible ] kremlin is really, really careful, and really, really -- how can i put it -- they really care about the political orientation of their neighboring countries, so in plain english, the [ inaudible ] ukraine is a geopolitical nightmare for the kremlin. >> how so? >> [ inaudible ] basically security, so have nato there, and pro-western ukraine with no links to russia. and from the russian perspective ukraine is not just another neighboring country, ukraine is considered to be which many russian nationalists [ inaudible ] of the russian history, russian culture, but there is something else there, and it has to do with kosovo, and the intervention in kosovo.